The resistance lives
on
Al-Ahram
Weekly
August 17/07
Hizbullah's Sheikh Naim Qasim speaks to Omayma Abdel-Latif about the resistance
movement one year after the US-backed Israeli war on Lebanon
There will be no fresh war in the near future between Hizbullah and Israel,
according to the Islamic resistance movement's deputy secretary-general.
Speaking to Al-Ahram Weekly from his office in Dahiya, Beirut, Sheikh Naim Qasim
said Hizbullah does not expect an imminent Israeli attack. He also stressed that
the party does not intend to attack Israeli targets for the time being.
"From day one, our resistance has been one of self-defence. We do not initiate
war against the enemy; rather we respond when we are being attacked," Sheikh
Qasim said. Qasim adds that in the belief of Hizbullah, Israel did not restore
its capacities to wage war on Lebanon. "Any adventure in that direction is
likely to implicate Israel in a deadlock that is much more complex than the July
[2006] war. We therefore believe that Israel is incapable of launching an
aggressive war during the forthcoming period."
Hizbullah, continued Qasim, remains vigilant and continues its preparations for
worst-case scenarios.
When asked if Hizbullah would respond if Iran and Syria -- said to be its two
regional allies and backers -- are attacked by the US and/or Israel, Qasim
responds: "Iran can defend itself and Syria can defend itself if attacked. But
the question is what form this aggression will take. This aggression might
extend to include other parties in the region, and since we don't know what form
the aggression will take, we cannot rule out any possibility. What we can say is
that the region will be extremely in danger."
Regarding Lebanon, Qasim says that the current political conflict can be summed
in one theme: refusing a US mandate over Lebanon, or accepting it. "If we, as
Lebanese political forces, can reach an understanding over issues of contention
we can then stop the US mandate over Lebanon. The problem lies in this," he
said.
On Tuesday, Lebanon commemorated one year after the end of the 33-day US- backed
Israeli war last summer that left 2,023 civilians dead and 3,740 wounded, razing
to the ground entire villages and towns in south Lebanon. Lebanon's Shia
population were made to pay the heaviest price during the war. The ostensible
goal was to break its support and sympathy for Hizbullah, destroying the
resistance movement's social and political base.
The reverse effect occurred. Qasim says that the party's popularity in the
aftermath of the war was never higher. "Sympathy for the party grew during and
after the war, and so too our popularity. We have full support from our
constituency." Qasim points out that Hizbullah has been inundated with requests,
most from Lebanese youth, to join the resistance.
Qasim dismisses reports of a decline in the movement's popular standing after
its soaring popularity during Israel's war. "The model the resistance presents
continues to command the ability to mobilise across the region. By this I mean
the cultural and spiritual mobilisation that is achieved by taking the example
of the ethos of resistance. This does not necessarily mean interfering in the
internal affairs of any country." Hizbullah, he continues, in resisting US
hegemonic schemes and the "new Middle East" project, reflects the position
embraced by Arab citizens across the Arab world. "Illusions about a decline in
Hizbullah's popularity only exist in the minds of the enemies of the
resistance," Qasim says.
"The resistance was able to force change and abort all attempts to establish the
new Middle East through the Lebanese gate. It also proved to our partners in
power in Lebanon that they should acknowledge that Hizbullah is an effective
political force and that only agreement over internal policies through
partnership can work -- not by dictating orders." The victory of the resistance,
according to Qasim, means the Arab world is no longer easy prey for US- Israeli
schemes: "One great consequence of the war is the revival of the notion of
military and political resistance across the region, and on this basis Hizbullah
considers itself victorious."
Hizbullah's detractors charge that the resistance's involvement in the Lebanese
political scene and its opposition to the Western-backed government of Fouad Al-Siniora
has turned traditional political rivalry in Lebanon between Muslim and Christian
constituencies into Shia-Sunni tension between Hizbullah on the one hand and
Tayyar Al-Mustaqbal (Saad Al-Hariri's Future Movement) on the other. In
response, Qasim explains that the 1989 Taif Agreement, which ended the Lebanese
civil war, has "protected Lebanon's sects from one another and has been fair to
all of them." Any rhetoric about Sunni-Shia rivalry, Qasim continues, "has no
foundation because there is a quota for every sect in a manner that cannot be
infringed upon. Whatever the Sunnis or the Shias do they have a certain number
of seats in parliament that will not be changed. This sectarian-based
distribution of power set by Taif cannot be changed by demographic factors."
Some viewed Hizbullah's fall 2006 civil disobedience campaign as a coup against
Taif. Was there any truth to this? "No one in Hizbullah's leadership made a
statement about changing or amending the Taif Agreement," Qasim responds. "Our
discourse has always been one of honouring Taif because it is an agreement that
Lebanon reached after a period of suffering that lasted for 15 years, and
therefore we cannot talk about a new agreement."
"In Hizbullah we believe that what is needed is to implement Taif and not to
amend it. We were surprised that it was 14 March (the Hariri-led Western-backed
parliamentary majority) that promoted a rhetoric suggesting that it is the
opposition that wants to change the balance of power by talking about
power-sharing ( Al-Muthalatha) between Sunni and Shia and Maronites, instead of
the traditional formula of Muslims and Christians. They have made up this
problem."
Qasim accuses the Western-backed government of violating the Taif Agreement by
continuing to rule despite the fact that a whole sect (the Shias, led by
Hizbullah) is now excluded from the power-sharing process. For Qasim, this is
part of a larger attempt to stir Sunni-Shia strife in Lebanon. He acknowledged
that there were forces working to sow seeds of sedition among Lebanon's Muslims.
"We have confronted those attempts and we have strived to stay away from fitna
(strife). Hizbullah's Secretary-General [Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah] said that even
if 1,000 of us are killed we would not respond, in order to stop the strife."
Many question, however, in light of the unprecedented sectarian rhetoric
embraced by key Lebanese political forces, what guarantees Hizbullah can provide
that Lebanon will not slip into a replay of the 1975 opening of civil strife.
Qasim acknowledges that the conditions for Sunni-Shia strife, or
Muslim-Christian strife, exist because "there are those who use sectarian
language day and night to stir sectarian sentiment, and we know that the
Americans are pioneers of 'constructive chaos' of which sectarian strife is one
form." Qasim insists, however, that there will be no sectarian strife in Lebanon
because "there is a strong will on Hizbullah's part, and on the part of the
Lebanese opposition in general, to prevent strife among the Lebanese. We engage
in counter- mobilisation."
Qasim further denies that Hariri's Future Movement fans the flames of fitna :
"It does not incite on such action; however, part of its discourse needs to be
amended because there cannot be a separation between the rhetoric and practice."
Qasim disclosed that meetings take place between figures in the Future Movement
and Hizbullah to abort attempts to stir sectarian strife among Sunnis and Shias.
Hizbullah's position regarding the confrontation between the Lebanese army and
the Fatah Al-Islam group in the Nahr Al-Bared refugee camp is, according to
Qasim, proof that the resistance movement wants to steer clear of attempts to
exacerbate any existing Shia-Sunni divide. "Whoever monitors our discourse
lately will find that we have avoided getting into a war of words with some
takfiri [one in the Muslim faith that accuses another Muslim of disbelieving]
groups. Hizbullah's top priority is to confront Israel and to obstruct the US
mandate over Lebanon, whereas the priorities of some takfiri groups are
different altogether. If we appear to be competing with them via the media we
will plunge into strife."
Qasim believes that the US-inspired classification of "moderates" versus
"extremists", or rather moderate Sunni regimes versus extremist Shia regimes,
"poses a great danger to our region". "The problem has never been one between
Sunnis and Shias. The problem has always been with the existence of Israel that
disrupted the balance in the whole region and made us pay the price of the
occupation and the Israeli entity. There is no other more important problem. For
example, some time ago we witnessed how Iranian-Saudi relations progressed, and
relations with Egypt were improving, but US meddling disrupts this progression."
According to Qasim, Hizbullah rejects any form of "mandate", regardless from
whence it comes. The Syrian mandate over Lebanon, he said, was the result of an
agreement made by the Saudis, the Syrians, the French and the Americans. "There
were regional and international conditions that allowed Syria to be in Lebanon.
It was an international rather than an internal decision," he said. Now that
Syria is out of Lebanon, the US, according to Qasim, wants to lay its hands
fully on Lebanon in the service of Israeli interests and its regional schemes.
"We have got to stop this mandate, but we also don't want to replace one mandate
by another. We want, as Lebanese political forces, to reach an understanding
amongst ourselves in order to stop any attempted foreign intervention."
Hizbullah, according to Qasim, understands the US decision to send arms supplies
to some Arab countries as an attempt to goad Arab regimes into confronting Iran
and Syria. "Iran and Syria are the two countries that stand in the face of US
schemes in the region while other countries chose to be part of the US plan."
Qasim says that Hizbullah does not believe that any of the Arab states
considered part of the "axis of moderates" wants to launch a war against Iran or
Syria. The US, he explained, is pushing these regimes to fulfil its own
strategic interests.
"We do not fear the arming of Arab countries. I am confident they are not going
to use their weapons against other Arab regimes," Qasim said. These countries,
he continued, are free to take weapons from the US, but they should not become
American political tools causing strife in the Arab world. "We should realise
that the real crisis in the region is the Israeli occupation. We don't want to
divert attention from this."
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