The following is a
transcript of a televised program on the Australian TV. station SBS on the Syrian
occupation of Lebanon.
http://www.sbs.com.au/dateline/dateline_set.html
The weekly political program
"Dateline" The title of the program: "The Army That Doesn't
Exist".Aired Wednesdays, July 12, 2000 at 8.30 pm. Repeated Thursdays, July 13, 2000
at 12.30pm This week on Dateline, reporter Mark Davis examines the vacuum left behind in
Southern Lebanon following the withdrawal of Israeli troops from the region. What he found
was a phantom army that no one in the region is prepared to formally acknowledge. At least
fifty thousand Syrian soldiers and intelligence people are now the only real authority in
an area that's been fought over for decades. Residents who speak out against the
occupation of their homeland risk persecution and even death but the continuing presence
of the Syrian army in Lebanon is a major barrier to a lasting peace. The army of
occupation that dare not speak its name - this week on Dateline.
The
Transcript of the Program:
MARK DAVIS:
It may look like a meeting at a modelling agency, but these students are in a truly deadly
situation.
YOUNG WOMAN (translation): I was interrogated for four hours. Eventually
he wrote the statement and just told me to sign it.
MARK DAVIS: They're being watched day and night for saying out loud what
other Lebanese have only dared whisper for the past decade. They've become the focus of
Syrian Intelligence, the most brutal security force in the Middle East.
YOUNG MAN (translation): All these slogans and posters put up
byintelligence about the liberation of the south and whatever, we will just remove them.
MARK DAVIS: Over the past three months, virtually every person
in this room has been arrested in a crackdown against Lebanese suspected of anti-Syrian
activities.
YOUNG WOMAN (translation): They didn't let the lawyer see me. I was there
four days and no lawyer.
MARK DAVIS: In Lebanon, Syria controls the government, the army, the
police and the courts, but not for now this small nationalist group which is gaining
national attention.
YOUNG MAN: When the Syrians are really in the corner in Lebanon, they
hurt. And when a thing you do or a speech you make or a statement you announce will hurt
them, they will hurt you.
MARK DAVIS: It's been an astounding month in Lebanon. The war between two
foreign armies, Syria and Israel, is no longer being fought on Lebanese soil.
And why do you throw the rocks?
LEBANESE BOY (translation): They've occupied our land, so we want to
throw
rocks at them now.
MARK DAVIS: After 22 years of occupying the south of Lebanon, Israel has
withdrawn to its side of the fence. And it's in this victory for the Lebanese people that
the complete impotence of their government is being revealed. There are no Lebanese troops
or police here to protect and control
this volatile border. The Syrians remain in Lebanon, stronger than ever, and they've
ordered the government to keep away.
With Jewish settlements just a stone's throw from this border, the only groups in control
here are Syrian Intelligence and the Islamic militias they support.
YOUNG MAN (translation): If a Jewish guy gets out, I'll rip him to
pieces.
(Laughs)
GRAHAM DAVIS: The political certainties that have endured for all of this
young man's life have been shattered in the space of a few weeks. Not only has Israel
suddenly packed up and left, but the man who made the Syrian annexation of Lebanon his
personal mission just as suddenly dropped dead.
CROWD CHANTS: With our soul, with our blood, we will protect you, Bashar.
Arise, Beirut, and listen...
MARK DAVIS: This rally is supposed to be an affirmation of Lebanese
loyalty to Syria and a spontaneous outburst of mourning for the death of its President.
But there's hardly a Lebanese national in the crowd. It's a circus arranged for the media
by Syrian Intelligence and attended mostly by the Syrian workers they control. This
pro-Syrian parade through the streets of Beirut is heading for an unusual destination.
There is no Syrian Embassy in Beirut - a clear sign that Lebanon is not regarded in any
way as an independent country. Without any irony, this group here is travelling towards
the real powerbase in Beirut - Syrian Intelligence headquarters.
In all of the eulogies that are being sung for Hafez Assad and his son and heir apparent
Bashar, there is of course no mention of the murder and torture the Assad regime has been
built upon. Nor in the chants about Lebanese loyalty is there any mention of the hundreds
of Lebanese who've been spirited away to rot in secret Syrian prisons. Like frightened
people everywhere, these Syrian men are prepared to chant but not to talk, even in
response to the most innocent of questions.
Could I ask why President Assad was so important to you? (Lebanese man chants pro-Bashar
slogan)
MARK DAVIS: Can I ask you why he was so important to you?
TRANSLATOR: He doesn't want to answer.
MARK DAVIS: Just ask again. Does he want to answer or not?
MAN (translation): Why is this man talking to me?
MARK DAVIS: Apparently, the talking is best left to the Syrian
organisers. This is the headquarters for Syrian Intelligence in Beirut. Lebanese are too
terrified to even walk down this street, and today is a rare opportunity to film the
building. It's said if you're taken in here, you don't come out. Time will tell whether
Bashar Assad harbours the same obsession his father
did to create Greater Syria through the total annexation of Lebanon. But there's little
doubt his party, minders and military are determined to stay here.
YOUNG MAN: I had here my hand broken. They were beating me on the face
with
the back of the gun, so I put my hand in front of the gun and it was broken.
I had it plastered - I think you saw it in the film later.
MARK DAVIS: Ziad Abz is one of the leaders of the Lebanon Patriotic
Movement, which has opposed the presence of both Israel and Syria. But for criticising the
Syrian presence in Lebanon, he's been arrested 22 times in the past nine years and
imprisoned for "damaging relations with friendly countries".
ZIAD ABZ, LEBANON PATRIOTIC FRONT: It's not accepted in Lebanon to speak
over a certain limit. There's some guidelines. Inside those guidelines, you're allowed to
speak whatever you want; even you are allowed to reject certain things, just to reflect
the image there is freedom. When you speak outside those guidelines, you become a
troublemaker. Is it me, or is it anybody else?
MARK DAVIS: What is that line you can't talk past?
ZIAD ABZ: You cannot talk about Syrian presence in Beirut, you cannot
talk about the way Syrians are benefiting from their presence here. Before, they used to
give the impression they are here just because the Israelis are here - to protect Lebanon
from the Israelis. Now, there's an Israeli withdrawal, there's no more Israeli occupation,
and there's no whatsoever reason for them to say. That's why we are planning to raise our
voice louder, and we will. Once, I was arrested in the Ministry of Defence. I was
blindfolded for 72 hours, and they kept me standing - not allowed to sit down for 72
hours...
MARK DAVIS: As a vocal critic of Syria, Ziad is lucky to be alive. Over
the years he's been politically active, dozens of others have disappeared or been killed
for similar activities - daring to state the obvious, that Lebanon is an occupied country.
Apart from the military presence, what's the intelligence numbers in Beirut?
ZIAD ABZ: There are around 35-40,000 official military Syrian soldiers,
and around 25,000 intelligence.
MARK DAVIS: The odds are intimidating, but apparently for Ziad, not
overwhelming.
ZIAD ABZ: We're ready to pay the price, whatever it take. We pay the
price for the Israeli withdrawal; we are right to pay the same price for the Syrians to
withdraw.
MARK DAVIS: The Lebanese have already paid the price for asking Syria to
leave. In 1989, a faction of the Lebanese Army rose against the Syrians, accusing them of
attempting to completely annex Lebanon, rather than merely assisting to oust Israel. The
Syrians crushed the Lebanese Army and unleashed a brutal round of assassinations, arrests
and torture.
A pro-Syrian government was installed and elections managed ever since. On the streets of
Lebanon, the Syrian President has taken equal billing with the nominal leader of the
country, Emile Lahud. The government claims it's a brotherly relationship. In his tour of
Beirut, Ziad reveals a less benign side of the "brotherly forces".
ZIAD ABZ: They used this building for the intelligence and the
interrogations here for this part of Beirut. You can see them here sitting...on the
address of this building, there's the Intelligence...
MARK DAVIS: And what's their operation there?
ZIAD ABZ: Here is an interrogation apartment where they usually arrest
people and interrogate them.
MARK DAVIS: It's a pretty run-down building, though...
ZIAD ABZ: Yeah, but there is four floors underground.
MARK DAVIS: Four floors. And what's in there - cells or what?
ZIAD ABZ: Yeah - cells and offices for interrogation. They use the
underground part of the building.
MARK DAVIS: And how long are people kept there for?
ZIAD ABZ: Depends - usually when you're kept for more than one month,
they take you to a place near the border. They have a big prison, where some people are
there for 10 years now. If your case is a bit more serious, you go to a prison in Syria,
where you never come back.
MARK DAVIS: When the Israelis announced their withdrawal in April, Ziad
was one of the first arrested in a pre-emptive strike by Syrian and Lebanese intelligence.
Nothing unusual in that, but this time, there was a very public reaction. In a rare
demonstration, students from around Beirut took
to the streets, demanding the release of Ziad and five others who'd disappeared. They were
in no doubt who was behind the arrests.
STUDENTS CHANT: Syria out! Syria out!
MARK DAVIS: These words were never heard on Lebanese TV.
STUDENTS CHANT: Freedom, sovereignty, independence!
MARK DAVIS: 15 people were taken in by the security forces and 20 sent to
hospital. In the days and weeks that followed, another dozen were taken from their homes
or arrested on the streets, most of them
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